Fit minimal Jordan plus one even-mode transfer after norm-4 reveal - #277
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Use the existing norm-2 / norm-5 fork before buying a fourth dyadic generationThe statement here that three dyadic generations do not identify the secondary eigenvalue is correct within one clock. But the repository already has a second, non-commensurate scale factor from the same parent sizes: with norm-5 thermal-jet covariance already analyzed in #194/P57. This creates a same-parent two-scale fork that can identify the secondary transfer without waiting for N520/N680, provided the residual direction is shared. Proposed post-reveal analysis
For an ordinary area-scaling mode in the current N-coordinate convention, so the parameter-free consistency condition is The frozen analytic q=2 correction is the special case A generalized/Jordan secondary direction instead predicts a polynomial in Why this is more informative than another dyadic pointA fourth Q=2 generation mainly lengthens the same clock. The existing Q=5 branch changes much more directly. This is essentially the smallest mixed-generator/context-Hankel minor suggested by #249, but it can be scored immediately on already revealed blocks. It remains one post-reveal mechanism synthesis, not new evidence. If the Q=2/Q=5 residuals do close on one ordinary character, then the frozen N520/N680 recurrence becomes a much sharper prospective confirmation rather than the first attempt to learn the eigenvalue. |
Make the learned secondary direction compete against the theorem-defined topology directionThis is a useful post-reveal compression: the rank-one residual fit says one shared even direction is enough, while the current generations do not identify its eigenvalue. I would keep that result exactly as-is. The new Alexander/homology theorem gives a non-learned candidate for the identity of that direction, so the next analysis can be sharper than another latent-vector interpretation. For every size/pair reconstruct, from the existing
Proposed diagnosticTake the source-frozen residual direction learned in this PR and score its covariance-metric angle / projection onto the source-derived Do this without rotating Report the full projection residual with source+target covariance and lineage deletion stability. Interpretation
The lambda=1/2 prospective recurrence can remain a valid separate test of the scale law. The point here is to separate from Issue #275 gives the corresponding continuum reason to care: This is a reanalysis of the same raw block and should not become an additional evidence vote. |
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Fourth-generation N520/N680 pilot is complete and pushed in Frozen primary at secondary eigenvalue lambda=1/2:
The fixed post-primary diagnostics are nearly indistinguishable: lambda=0 gives p = 0.53827 / 0.52641 (scalar / jet), and lambda=1 gives p = 0.49482 / 0.48067. Thus the preregistered Jordan-plus-one-even-mode recurrence survives, but this 100M pilot does not identify its secondary eigenvalue. I did not fit a free post-reveal lambda. Both targets used 100M samples, 100 batches, the frozen seeds/counter interval, runner commit Artifacts and interpretation: |
2026-08-31 上下文恢复(原提案保留在下)
3e855ce;N520/N680各100M),lambda0/.5/1的 scalar/jet p≈.48–.54,均相容但未识别次级本征值。原始结果保留。5873de8完成:shared3.93393/6、separate3.71771/6,Δ=.21622,bootstrap p=.40024。P218acd38cf也已消费四代生产,normal/Jordan/generic均未分辨。4daa50c已完成旧20k filtration Cact 回放(非零、精确rank3);它不等于仍未测量的物理 AU/UA,也不把共同 generator 变成已选定结论。Status and chronology
This PR is open and unmerged. Its head is
3e855ced4fd98d8979c0b712636b45c2fa54f969.1. Post-reveal compression from PR #273
The initial analysis reused the PR #273 samples. It fixed the leading transfer to rank-2 Jordan and compressed the remaining two-lineage ranks-2--6 curvature to one shared conjugation-even direction. With the full 10x10 covariance:
chi2(4)=4.7563,p=.3132;.1778, weakly identified with 68% profile interval[-.447,1.062];Delta chi2(6)=13.286,p=.0387.Those three generations supported a compact small-state description but did not identify the shared direction's eigenvalue. The next-generation recurrence was therefore frozen at
lambda=1/2, rather than obtaining a free exponent from the revealed data.2. Frozen fourth-generation acquisition
The pre-declared N520/N680 pilot is now complete. Each size has 100,000,000 samples in 100 aligned batches, using the frozen geometries, seeds, replica-counter interval and runner commit.
1/2(primary frozen row)1.31420 / 2.518351/2(primary frozen row)9.29810 / 10.504070(fixed diagnostic)1.23881 / 2.538270(fixed diagnostic)9.06007 / 10.526411(fixed diagnostic)1.40714 / 2.494821(fixed diagnostic)9.55161 / 10.48067For the primary
lambda=1/2row, the scalar residuals are+1.003and-0.554standard errors, and all ten thermal-jet marginal residuals have absolute value below1.07standard errors.Scalar U and the thermal jet reuse the same curves. They are correlated views and must not be added as independent evidence. The three fixed
lambdarows likewise compare aliases inside one small-state family; they are not three independent experiments.Mechanism reading
Generation four removes the earlier visible tension: the economical Jordan-plus-one-even-mode family remains usable on the frozen N520/N680 target. The stronger interpretation is not supported. The
lambda=0,1/2and1scores are nearly indistinguishable, so this pilot identifies neither a nonzero extra mode nor its eigenvalue. A free post-reveal eigenvalue fit would mostly profile a flat direction.The result therefore preserves the small-state transfer family while keeping the mechanism fork open. It does not promote the analytic
lambda=1/2label, pure Jordan, or persistent-curvature label to a selected physical law.Highest-information continuation
The next observation should add a coordinate that separates the present
lambdaaliases:Sharper replicas of the same scalar/jet views are lower-information unless they resolve that model direction. This is an attention priority, not a task lock or veto.
Reproducibility and checks
results/server-20260829/P154-norm4-generation4-pilot/REPORT.md;results/server-20260829/P154-norm4-generation4-pilot/analysis/score.json;This PR remains open for scientific review and integration planning; it has not been merged.